IMJ Open Thread

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  1. M. Fewko says:


  2. ComicBookDude says:

    Guys I need some help.

    A guy my dad works with has a fifteen year-old daughter that is getting into comics and my dad gave me the responsibility to suggest what comics she may like. I came up with a few such as Invincible, Wonder Woman, and Supergirl. Can you guys think of any other really good comics that a 15 year old girl may like? Oh, Blankets. Just reminded myself of that one! I think newer comics would be better since they could be more accessible. Thanks!

    • Denouette says:

      Some of the small format trades DC put out on the Minx imprint like “The Plain Janes” by Cecille Castellucci and Jim Rugg are pretty teenage girl friendly and oriented, and some of them are just really great little books with good art. “L’il Depressed Boy” from image which already has a couple of trades out. I’d say indie books are probably more new reader friendly and less heavy-going than superhero books, but it all depends on what she likes.

    • kurumais says:

      stephanie brown!!!! introduce her to stephanie

      first find out why she is just getting into comics . is it the movies like avengers spidey or dark knight or the cartoon young justice? might be a steroetype but most fangirls coming in through those. if you find that out then you can focus more.

      at 15 she can pretty much read anything if you think about the books she should be reading for school.
      right of the top of my head some suggestions

      captain marvel new series
      journey into mystery gals love kid loki , avengers movie fangirls love loki
      avengers academy
      wonder woman is good
      saga perhaps
      fables/ fairest
      the new hawkeye series is going to starring both hawkeyes you get a character from a huge movie and teenage girl with beautiful david aja art that might be a good combo for her
      winter soldier if she is a marvel movie fan it has bucky and black widow and its a good book the art is always quality.

      i was at a women of marvel panel one time it was female creators that work for marvel. and they all talked about how the xmen cartoon and all the social tension in it was one of the really big things that sparked their interest. they used the term social tension a lot i kept hearing soap opera. rogue and gambit was talked about a lot.
      take that for what its worth

    • As Kurumais said, see what peaked her interest in comics and work from there.

      If were to do a cold recommendation of the comics I get right now..

      Main Recs:
      Mind The Gap
      Anything that comes from Slave Labor Graphics – I don’t know why, but a lot of female comic fans I know love that company. Not that they are a bad company or anything, i like their stuff too, it’s just surprising to see so much love for it.

      Possibly Recs:
      Animal Man
      Demon Knights
      I, Vampire
      Justice League Dark
      Punk Rock Jesus

      Adjustments would be made depending on what brought her to comics.

    • Insideman says:

      Whatever you do, CBD– be sure you understand the parameters of what kinds of comic literature the father feels is acceptable for his 15 year old daughter.

      Me? I couldn’t care less if my 15 year old daughter read Saga— but the book starts off with the main female character giving birth and asking if she has shit all over herself in the process. (This line of questioning continues for several panels.)

      There are also beings with TV shaped heads (you can tell I only read the first issue) having sex– doggystyle.

      Again, I could care less if my teen read this book as I know there is far worse out there… But If you hand this guy a list– or a stack of books– I would not put Saga at the top… For the reasons I stated above. It would be easy to ask, “Do you have any problem with her reading something with mild profanity or adult situations– as long as they aren’t graphic situations?”

      None of us can expect most people who don’t read comics to understand the stuff in Saga is mild or to put the scenes into the context of artistic expression… Few will see the art/beauty/talent in any story if they flip through a comic and get caught up in scenes filled with profanity, nudity and sex… Especially if the books are purchased for their 15 year old. This kind of myopic reactionism is not right (or even intelligent)– but it is a sign of the times.

      Just a thought to keep in mind. As far as kids go, I have met 15 year olds that are more mature than I am. But remember, “Dad” is asking for the list– not her.

    • J. says:

      New York Four/Five
      Joe The Barbarian
      Wonder Woman (Greg Rucka run) including The Hiketeia OGN
      Batgirl (Bryan Q. Miller run)
      Supergirl (current run)
      Optic Nerve (any of the trades)
      Morning Glories
      Y The Last Man
      Ghost World

    • Tiger Topher says:

      I’ve had retailers tell me that Walking Dead and Y The Last Man are great books to use to get girls hooked on comics. Of course, there’s some mature stuff in both of these books, so they may not be appropriate for this particular 15-year-old. Scott Pilgrim might be a safer choice.

      • kurumais says:

        i see a lot of gals teens, early 20, come in LCS looking for walking dead i zombie too but that seemed to cool off

    • ed2962 says:

      I’d like to add…
      Power Girl – the Amanda Conner stuff
      World’s Finest -PG and Huntress team up
      Ultimate SpiderMan – I have literally seen teen-aged girls reading the earliest vols on the bus.
      Birds of Prey – I think nobody likes this but me and 1 guy on you tube, but your friend might give it a go.
      Astonishing X-Men – the Joss Whedon stuff
      Earth 2 – I’m just getting into this one myself, it’s neat!

      If you think she’s open to older comics, I’d also suggest…
      Teen Titans – Wolfan/Perez
      Swamp Thing -Alan Moore. Sometimes ppl forget that females like spooky stuff too.

    • comicbookdude89 says:

      Thanks very much for the suggestions guys! I didn’t quite expect this much response! Some of the things you mentioned I didn’t think of, so for that I thank you guys again.

      My dad told me that she has enjoyed the X-Men movies and has read X-Factor (a solid choice for a comic and arguably the best X-comic on the market). I encouraged the continuing of the X-Factor reading. I recommended Joss Whedon’s Astonishing X-Men and Wolverine and the X-Men. I also recommended Scott Pilgrim, Blankets, and Invincible. I could’ve suggested a lot more (many of which was on your guys’ list) but I didn’t want to overwhelm her or her dad. If they ask for more recommendations I will definitely refer back to your lists. Thanks again guys! I let you guys know it turns out!

  3. Insideman says:

    I read the first Gotham City Sirens HC last night and I loved it.

    Am I in the minority? I thought the way Dini brought up all the old Joker gags was ingenuous.

    Maybe I’m the only one who’s read it? 😉

    • comicbookdude89 says:

      I read Kick-Ass 2 last night and I hated it.

      What a piece of… crap. It’s worse than the first volume of Kick-Ass. In terms of “writing” and art. Issue #4 of KA2 pissed the hell out of me. A gang-raping scene and Red Mist (not going to call him by his super-villain name because it’s juvenile and dumb) shooting down 4 young kids in the face. All within 2-3 pages of each other. Thank God I didn’t pay full price for this awful crap.

      I’ve only read the first issue of Gotham City Sirens and I enjoyed it. It was fun. Plus, I’m a sucker for Harley Quinn and Catwoman. Poison Ivy is also a welcome addition. I haven’t read the rest of the series mainly because I haven’t been able to find the earlier issues often. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough?

      Maybe I should re-read the first issue of GCS (it’s been a while since I first read it) then I can get the awful taste of Millar crappy crap comics out of my mouth.

      Actually, reading Strange Talent of Luther Strode took care of that problem. What an amazing comic. Can’t wait for the sequel later this year!

      • skinner sweet says:

        I liked the first gotham city sirens trade but after that it was kinda meh.

        • Insideman says:

          Skinner, that’s funny that you mentioned that. I’ve been having that exact same fall off in quality experience with several DC Trades I’ve been reading lately.

          For example: Secret Six, which is the first Gail Simone book I’ve truly liked in years. I read Depths (on of the trades in the middle of the run) and liked it so much I immediately went searching for the follow-up, Cats in the Cradle. But “Cats” is half filled with two one shot stories by John Ostrander. The second Ostrander story, Unforgiveable, places all the characters in an Old West environment. I kept wondering what the “joke” was… Alternate Elseworlds story? What? But the entire comic plays out the Western premise straight all the way to the end– with no clue given as to why the Secret Six were in the Old West and acting like they didn’t know each other, etc. The first Ostrander story, Predators, was a rip-off of Agatha Christie’s And Then There Was None with a little Hunger Games– and by extension– a little Battle Royale thrown in.

          I wonder how an Editor can allow these stories to be collected in a single volume with a continuing on-going story written by the regular series writer– when they have nothing to with the current storyline? How anyone at DC would think two such aberrant stories would lead casual trade readers to pick up another Secret Six volume is beyond me.

          It’s high time that DC and Marvel put these one and done stories in better context– especially if the stories don’t have anything to do with the regular on-going storyline. Both companies would be well served to collect all one and done stories in separate “One Shot” collections featuring one and done stories from several different comics.

          I bet these books would be big sellers. Tons of readers yearn for one shot stories. Collecting these comics in such a volume would also cause readers to sample other comics they wouldn’t normally purchase.

    • M. Fewko says:

      Who do these Canadians think they are??? Coming to OUR country and spending THEIR money (which in fact, is the best thing, monetary-wise, you could have) but STILL!

      Reminds me of a story. A girl I knew from Canada wanted to buy wine in Texas and they refused to let since she didn’t have a “state issued ID” to which she said “They don’t have states where I’m from…”

      But hey, if America doesn’t want foreign money stimulating its economy, then, frankly, it doesn’t deserve it.

      • Locusmortis says:

        Most countries accept Passports as ID but then since most Americans don’t have a passport that doesn’t really surprise me that they’d be so blinkered .

        And its funny that they’re saying that the Canadians are rude, I’ve certainly never met a rude American!

    • ed2962 says:

      I don’t see what the problem is. Some of our citizens go to Canada for cheaper medicine, some of theirs come here for cheap groceries…everyone wins!

  4. kurumais says:

    why are people so ready to believe in the supernatural and ghost stories? i include myself in this speculation.

    a few weeks ago i read the story about the disappearance of ashley kansas. a fun urban legend interent ghost story. it even has youtube viodeos about it. i started sharing and telling people about it and almost all of them asked very expectantly ” is this true?”
    look at all the reality shows like ghost hunters and what not. i ve only seen a bit of them but they are total bs with the supposed experts/ reports just hyping nothing. and audiences are eating it up.

    i remember when the blair witch project hit big everyone was wondering, even hoping if it was real. im sure it happened again with paranormal activities. i remember some exorcist movie a couple of years ago ppl were saying it was real. heck i remember ppl telling me the original exorcist movie was based on a true story.
    why are we so ready to be scared by some spooky supernatural thingyies. why do we so want to to be scared? it can’t be comforting to believe that malevolent supernatural forces can happen upon you and completely disrupt and/or destroy your life or even take it. where is the wish fulfillment in that?

    it fascinates me quite a bit

    • J. says:

      “why do we so want to to be scared?”

      I feel this is the only question I can answer truthfully since I think that ghosts are a bunch of horseshit.

      I LOVE horror films. The reason I think I do is because I like the feeling of being scared. Living in a US suburb, I do not really get that feeling very much. Being scared by a film, for me, is an experience that is very few and far between but I do quite like the rush when I do feel it. The first time I saw the movie REC was my favorite horror film experience because of this.

      • Insideman says:

        My girlfriend asks all the time why Ghost movies have to be so bloody.

        If I had a dollar for every time she screamed at the TV, “Where did all that damn blood come from?! They’re GHOSTS!”… I’d be able to buy at least ten over-priced Marvel comics.

  5. kurumais says:

    the 90s are BACK!! have you seen the preview of that blindside book? it looks like they found it in an image vault like away in the 90s.

  6. kurumais says:

    they left of stephanie why am i not surprised ? newsrama did top 10 sidekicks robin was number and they named all the robins including carrie kelly but not stephanie brown. what is about this character ppl just like to dismiss her? i don’t get it

    • ed2962 says:

      Hm, I’m not sure. I think Steph was only Robin for one arc and then killed, right? Batman War Drums (which I didn’t read)? If I were to give Newsrama the benefit of the doubt, maybe I’d guess that they were acknowledging that the DC editors never considered Steph a “real” Robin. I’m more concerned about Dan Didio’s rumored dislike of the character. The original loose talk was that Ms Brown was going to return as Spoiler, but it’s been a year and nothing.
      I think it might be fun if they found a place for her on Birds of Prey. On the other hand, I saw on some forum a comment stated that it might be for the best she’s in limbo otherwise she might appear in some trashed form in the new 52.

      • kurumais says:

        i can see not counting her as robin because of her limited time but she took over the robin title, she appeared with batgirl in her title as robin and of course in batmans books.
        carrie kelly was robin for 3 issues.

  7. kurumais says:

    i saw gladys knight tonight. i went down to coney island to just hang on boardwalk and get some sea air and ended up watching the empress of soul. i wasnt in stands i was hanging on boardwalk with a couple thousand people . she is almost 70 she sounds freakin great . she can still hit all the notes and sustain them. it was really fun seeing these sort creaky late 50s 60 year old hard core gladys turn out big time for dancing up a storm. i left my house i had no idea i end up hearing one of the most popular songs of the 20th century done by one of the great talents of the soul era.
    that lady had the board work rockin with this one

    i had a blast

  8. kurumais says:

    captain marvel 2 honestly i was bored

  9. kurumais says:

    i thought this brought up some interesting points on genre filmmaking

  10. Insideman says:

    I just found out that my high school girlfriend has become a serious Born Again Christian. In all seriousness, good for her.

    But life is SO hilarious sometimes… I haven’t laughed this hard since I went to see George Carlin at his last Comedy Store gig. There might be something to this whole 2012 thing.

    Hey, it ain’t over yet. 😀

    P.S. Just to prove this is me, does the beautiful lady in the Open Thread pic have a serious case of cameltoe… Or what? Wishful thinking on my part?

    • kurumais says:

      i dont know what would have done in your place IM. i agree good for her i guess but born againers tend to be very recruitive. did she give you the hard sell? i would have gone with the ” how about a quickie for old times sakes?” and paved my way to hell

      my favorite comedy bit on born again was dennis miller why is it ppl only give their lives over jesus until they completely #$%^ed it up . or something like that it was good.

  11. kurumais says:

    reddit is doing a comic book and graphic novel exchange i have no clue how it would work or anything. but reddit seems an interesting place

  12. kurumais says:

    this weeks daredevil made me smile both for stilt man i always liked him and the part at the end

    dc presents kid flash was just fun fabian got bart right bart is just a good kid and jorge jimenez draws a cute girl face and fun art

  13. SickFreak22 says:

    Anybody thinks this chick would make an awesome girlfriend?

  14. kurumais says:

    bbc america’s copper isnt bad
    and doctor who commercials are killing me

  15. ed2962 says:

    Director Tony Scott passed away. I know a lot of people consider his brother Ridley as the “serious” one and Tony as the “popcorn blockbuster” guy, but I’m still shocked that he took his own life. I’ll admit that I didn’t care for Top Gun and I literally fell asleep trying to watch Revenge, but I do adore True Romance. I’m not sure what was going on in his life (cancer?) but I do think it’s sad that he decided to commit suicide.

  16. kurumais says:

    dc nation shorts are pretty fun the animal man ones are very good.
    and the batman of shanghai was excellent

  17. kurumais says:

    jim gaffigan has some really good bits about food

  18. kurumais says:

    why do comic cons differentiate between comic creators? if you look at new york comic cons website they have 3 categories of comic folks. is there some sort of class system in place i don’t know about? yeah i get jim lee or joe q are really big names but is rick remender that much bigger a name then say cliff chang or mark bagley? i dont get why they do this.

  19. kurumais says:

    for kung fu flick fans

    i couldnt find the trailer on youtube

  20. NicktheStick says:

    Hey guys, been a bit since I have commented but I have a question for the Nation.

    How do you guys know when you want to get rid of some comics? For example, there are obvious ones that you just know that you are not going to get rid of, for me my Invincible stuff. Then there are things that you know you just don’t care about like my Dark Avengers or Wolverine Weapon X stuff. But what about those ones that are kind of in the middle. You like them but you aren’t sure if you are actually ever going to read them again. Do you keep them because they have cool moments in them, or just get rid of them since they are taking up space. My examples for these are: Crisis on Infinite Earths and All Star Superman (both full runs). Those are the two main ones in question for me right now.

    Anyways, curious as to what you guys think about getting rid of comics.

    I realized that I should mention that I am considering getting rid of these so that I can afford my new comics. Not sure if that will make a difference or not in your answers, but thought I’d give the scenario.

    • Tiger Topher says:

      If you need cash for new comics, selling old ones that you don’t care too much about isn’t such a bad way of making some money. The books that you’re thinking of letting go of aren’t rare by any means and you could easily replace them if you ever wanted to. Unfortunately, though, you might not make a whole lot selling them due to the fact that they’re so common.

  21. tomstewdevine says:

    Well never get rid of All-Star Superman unless you upgrade to the complete hardcover. As for the rest, I say keep them unless space is a problem, you already bought them and in ten years it may be fun to look at Dark Avengers or Weapon X. BUT if someone is going to buy these comics from you for face value, then take the opportunity, because that usually doesn’t happen.

  22. In TV News: John Barrowman joined the cast of ARROW as an unknown character and Jessica De Gouw has been cast as The Huntress.


  23. tomstewdevine says:

  24. tomstewdevine says:

    For people missing Secret Six.

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